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talking with nail, ansi
head of fire productions..
Session
Start: Mon Jan 27 18:40:03 1997
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<dngrmouse>
ok
<nail|fire> you know what's funny?
<dngrmouse> i have no idea?
<dngrmouse> what?
<nail|fire>
you did the halaster interview the same time when i take
my time zone =)
<nail|fire> Session Start: Mon Jan 27 09:48:40
1997
<dngrmouse>
haha
<nail|fire>
it's 27th 9:45 over here =)
<dngrmouse>
no shit
<dngrmouse> haha
<dngrmouse> man, must be a bloody omen
<dngrmouse> shit
<nail|fire>
well, halaster stepped back from prez and stuff the month
after =)
<nail|fire> let's hope it's NO omen =)
<dngrmouse>
ok, lets get to it
<nail|fire>
alright, shoot =)
<dngrmouse>
without mishaps :)
Dangermouse:
Gimme some stats to start off with, like yer name, age,
sex, and place of worship
Nail:
My name's Björn (don't even try to pronounce it, you'll
most likely get it wrong i guess) Odendahl, I'm 23 male
from Dortmund /Germany
Dangermouse:
Born? heh
Nail:
Nah, it's more like burn with an additional -ee- in there
=) like b-ee-urn =)
Dangermouse:
Umm, Ok, i've certainly heard of you, and seen yer ansis
and shit in the fire packs, but I've never actually found
out where you came from, how you got started.. Where did
it begin?
You
seem to keep a low profile :)
<Jenny15>
Look
what I just got sent, heh
Nail:
Well, it started on a local chat bbs over here where i got
talked into calling some scene BBS by some lamers, then
i started to draw ansi, joined a German group called Pain!
...
To
keep somewhat independent I did my own subsection Mean Scheme,
which later went independent as kinda "best of german ansi
guys" group
Joined
fire in september 96 if I remember right, and I was lucky
to get in as Jesse first turned my app down but was talked
into giving me a chance... =) and then suddenly in 1997
I found myself as head of the ansi divison when Jesse stepped
back and David suddenly disappeared,...
So
I've been drawing ansi for slightly over 2 years now...
As
for the low profile.. as soon as people know too much about
you, they own you.. I don't like that =)
Dangermouse:
Yeha, when abouts did you enter the scene again, time frame
wise..
Nail:
Uhm.. i joined Pain! in october 96 i think, my first scene
appearance was in January 96 with my first solo "art" pack
(which sucked but was still decent compared to the rest
of the german art packs at that time =))
Dangermouse:
Shit a brick, I thought you were like a old daddy, see what
a low profile does!?
I'
ve been in the scene about a eyar longer than yer, shit!
Nail:
Hehe, not when it comes to PC scene, when you talk about
computer scene in general I am =) Started on C64 over 10
years ago =) Which is the best computer ever if i might
add that =)
Dangermouse:
Nono, the Amstrad CPC 464 was my friend!
Anyways,
How do you like Fire Productions as a group in the whole?
...and, whats this about Hal rejecting yer app?! :)
Nail:
Bah, no way... C64 was it... all the cool groups back in
the good old days, Fairlight, Genesis Project, Red Sector
etc etc =)
Dangermouse:
Haha.. Shit, i remember fairlight
Nail:
Fire simply was my dream... when I started I looked at packs
of Integrity and Legend but when i finally was "good enough"
to head for a US group most of the guys I admired went to
Fire meanwhile.. so I headed for Fire...
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Nail:
ooops =)
Dangermouse:
haha
Nail:
Uhm.. back to that last question... I had a pretty.. uhm..
awkward shading style back then I guess and I never really
did full length pics back then, so all there was in my app
was mainly 23liners and one strange shaded pic =)
Dangermouse:
And your now the Fire Ansi Head am i correct?
Nail:
uhm.. yeah, wicked, uh? =)
Dangermouse:
Haha.. I just find it ironic that halaster tried to reject
your ansis and shit, and you've replaced him :)
Thats
funny shit..
Nail:
I didn't replace Jesse. noone ever will replace him
Dangermouse:
I meant his posisition :), he was ansi head..
Nail:
I just took over the coordination of the ansi division,
he was prez first of all, then ansi head, yeah =)
Dangermouse:
Is the Fire Presidency next? :)
Nail:
For me? nah... i'm way too busy, to be honest i guess it
was kinda my fault that we didn't release for quite a while
now...
I've
been away doing some c64 stuff =)
Dangermouse:
Haha.. Ok, where do you see Fire heading in the future,
and your division too.. With all the major groups dying,
theres been speculation that fire is headed for a similar
fate.. ?
Nail:
well.. I think all these new groups that pop up recently
are kinda killing our scene's continuity...
With
good ansi artists rare there just isn't enough active ones
to keep the ansi groups running, and it's pretty much the
same for fire
When
I started there was hardly anything like dual grouping and
stuff like that, nowadays everybody got 2 or 3 affiliations
and if you have to split up your few ansis you do there
isn't enough for all of them...
Dangermouse:
That brings up a point, why do you think ansi is dying?
Lack of the bbs?
Nail:
No, i don't think it's lack of BBSes, or at least it's not
the main reason.. There still are a lot of BBSes around,
but ppl just won't draw anymore.. I know cause I still DO
run a board and it's really hard to get ppl to draw for
it =)
Ppl
aren't dedicated to their groups anymore, the we-are-family
feeling in groups is fading...
Nowadays
you join a group because it's cool and it looks nice behind
your nickname (no, that's not the reason i'm using this
irc nick, it's just since i was away from Efnet for a while
there's some other guy using my nick =))
Dangermouse:
Does attitute need an adjustment you think?
Nail:
Yeah, it's attitude... group's members need to get known
to each other, communicate, talk about life, opinions, whatever...
not only "I did that ansi lately" - "lemme check.." - "there
you go" - "cool" - "cya l8er"
Dangermouse:
Heh, I agree..
Welp,
time to cap yer ass im affraid... Whats the time? (finish
the same time as hal?)
Nail:
10:28 =)
Dangermouse:
What, hal finished at 10:28?
Nail:
Oh, and IRC is a handicap, too =) ermm.. dunno, it's 10:28
over here now =)
Dangermouse:
Herhe, he finished in anotehr 20 minutes ;)
Oh
welk, nice jabbering to you man..
Nail:
Yo =)
Dangermouse:
Nono, you say 'bye' now :)
Nail:
Oh... you're not expecting me to keep up with some silly
rules, uh? =)
Dangermouse:
Haha, cya l8r man
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Session
Close: Mon Jan 27 19:27:54 1997
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